Welcome to the Lawrence & Chase Genealogy page!
My name is Scot
I was born in Sayre, Pennsylvania, grew up in nearby Waverly
NY, and currently live in Rochester, NY. I am building this
to record all the known Family Tree information
My particular group
have lived in Tioga County, New York (in and near Waverly) since
at least the 1850's, (and possibly even before.)
Today (im writing this in 2009) there are only eight of us Lawrences way out on the end of this particular branch.. myself, my wife, my sister, my two parents, my uncle, his wife and son. Thats it! Eight current Lawrences..I have not yet connected my family tree to any other existing Lawrences who are out in the wide world. It is my hope that by publishing on the internet all I know about my ancestors, more ancestors can be found, and perhaps even a connection to another long-lost branch of the Lawrence tree!
of Lawrences are descended from English Lawrences, and we are probably
descended from one of the three brothers, John, William, and Thomas,
who came to America from
Family legend says
we might be descended from a group of Lawrence's who are offshoots of
On my Mom's side we
have the Kremer and Talada families, who have also been natives of
"The Valley" (Waverly, NY, Sayre
Athens, PA) for ages. Many Kremer, Talada and Canavan cousins of mine
are still in Sayre and Athens today.
My wife is Debbie
Her Dad's surname,
was actually changed to Chase from the original Cizus, a Lithuanian
grandparents settled in and around Buffalo, NY in the 1920's, and
born and raised in North Tonawanda, near Niagara Falls.
Scot Lawrence Side:
Debbie Chase Side:
Cizus - Lithuanian
Places our Ancestors have lived:
Lithuania - Cizus
Boston, MA -
About the charts..
I'm not using any specific Genealogy Software yet, except for "PAF" (Personal Ancestral File).
PAF is a free program, you can download it here.
Its fairly basic, but is good for simply inputting data to get it into a digital format.
The "gedcom" files the program creates are in a standardized format, and can then be imported into other, more advanced genealogy programs later, if you wish. I havent done enough research yet to determine what "full-fledged" genealogy software I want to use..maybe someday.
So i'm making all my pedigree charts myself, just because I feel like it!
and I custom-built them to fit into this webpage..
Im using an age-old pedigree chart format, which is neat and tidy and helps keep track of your many ancestors! here is how it works:
You are person #1.
Your Father is person #2, Your Mother is person #3.
then..you simply double any persons number to get the number of their father.
you double any persons number and add 1 to get the number of their mother.
Any even number is always male, any odd number is always female. (except for person #1, who can be male or female!)
And generally when making Pedigree charts, and when recording ancestor information, you only use a Female ancestors maiden name, not her married name. This makes it easier to keep track of *her* ancestors names! (who of course are your ancestors as well), and it makes it much easier to search for your female ancestors on-line and in old records, because everyone has her recorded with her maiden name only. And last names are generally recorded as all-caps, which helps differentiate last names (surnames) from middle names, and helps avoid confusion.
For example, I have a relative Rollin Lawrence PERRY..
Lawrence is his middle name! he got his middle name "Lawrence" from his Mother, Grace LAWRENCE,
who married Rollin C. PERRY.
Only one other person in the world shares all the exact same "ancestor numbers" as me,
my sister Kelly, because we are the only two people with the exact same ancestry.
On my Father's side, I have one cousin, (my Dads Brothers son) who has all the same Paternal ancestors as me, so all the Lawrence-Hill numbers will match for him, except for persons 1, 2 and 3.
He of course does not share my Mother's ancestors though, because he has a different mother than me..
so we have identical Paternal ancestors, but completely different Maternal ancestors..
we share 50% of our ancestry.
On my Mothers side, it is the same for my three Canavan 1st cousins..the children of my Mother's sister. They will have all the same numbers on the Kremer-Talada line, except for persons 1, 2 and 3 again,
but starting with numbers 6 and 7 and going back, those 1st cousins will have all the same ancestor numbers on their maternal line. My other Kremer 1st cousins will share the same Kremer-Talada ancestors as me, but they will be their paternal ancestors! not maternal..so the people will match, but not the numbers...it sounds complicated, but its easy once you look at your own personal pedigree chart.
For any other relatives, we have the same ancestors on certain branches, but your "ancestor numbers" will be totally different than mine..
One more bit of "standard operating procedure" when it comes to Genealogy research, and especially
on-line genealogy information..
It is a generally accepted practice that one should never post information about living relatives on-line!
unless you specifically have their permission..No names or dates. There is a small risk of identity theft.
The main concern is "mothers maiden name"..which was once used as identification for things like bank accounts and such..you probably once called a bank and they asked "what is your mothers maiden name?" you previously provided them that info as means of identifying yourself..
(they of course should ask for more than just that!)
well, that is rarely used anymore, because its such a weak, poor method of identifying someone.
"mothers maiden name" is too easy for anyone to find out..If you still have a bank using that, suggest they come up with a better method to prove you are who you say you are!
Birthdays of course are another "personal" bit of ID people might not want posted..for various reasons.
So on my webpages, I will have virtually no information about any living relatives..
I do have some of that info! and I plan to develope detailed family group sheets of current generations..but that information will only be shared with my relatives, and in "hard copy" form.
In some cases I may list a living person's name on the webpage, like myself:
I gave myself permission!
and I dont mind telling the world I was born in Sayre, Pa in 1969.
(but im not posting my exact birthday)
and my Mother's name:
she gave me permission as well..
but I have no other info on-line about my Mother, other than her name.
and..lets be realistic..I honestly dont think people scan genealogy webpages looking for info to use
for identity theft, there are probably MUCH better ways to get good info if you are a criminal into that kind of thing..I imagine the only people ever looking at this webpage will be relatives of mine interested
in family history..There are huge amounts of genealogy webpages on the internet..I dont really care about any of them except my own! and people unrelated to us will not be the least bit interested in this page.. but even so..no info on living relatives will be here..
For our deceased ancestors, most genealogists figure their ancestors simply wont mind if they post all their information on-line! identity theft isnt much of a concern for them..
And I like to think that our deceased ancestors actually enjoy webpages such as this!
some of them probably were wondering if they would be completely forgetten among their descendants..
and it's probably nice to see that their memory is living on..
I have decided to begin this collection of webpages by creating eight "family pages"..
One page for each surname of my four grandparents, and one page for each of Deb's four grandparents.
Each page will then be 25% of our individual ancestry.
If one particular family's information grows particularily large (such as Ackles for instance) I might sub-divide further, but for now I will begin with eight pages:
Scot Lawrence's four grandparents:
Page 2 - LAWRENCE
Page 3 - HILL
Page 4 - KREMER
Page 5 - TALADA
Deb's four grandparents:
Page 6 - CIZUS (Chase)
Page 7 - (still need maiden name)
Page 8 - HESSE
Page 9 - DELLING
Page 10 - Updates and Research - This will be a BIG page, the list of updates to my family
webpages, but also including tons of notes, research,
and speculation about the research! In this page I will also talk about, and thank the many people who
have been helping me with all this research!
Page 11 - Famous people on the Family Tree. (Two U.S. Presidents so far!)
Page 12 - The Lawrence's of Cayuta Lake, NY. (page about a group of Lawrences I might be related to,
but im not sure yet.)
Page 13 - Cemetary visits.
Page 14 - Family Coats of Arms and Heraldry.
Page 15 - Sources - The list of sources I have used in my research.
(not all pages are on-line yet, if a link is green and underlined, it's "live".. other pages are coming soon.)
I have heard from a few of my relatives that they have tried printing some of these pages..and its messy.
sorry about that! but webpages, by their nature, are generally difficult to print neatly..this is why you often see "printer friendly" versions of things on-line, which are new documents specifically made for printing. Webpages are designed to fit a horizontal, squarish monitor..they arent designed to print neatly on a vertical piece of paper..plus you have tables and frames and random weird formatty stuff in webpages, that often don't convert well to a printed page.
but! I do plan to eventually make "printer friendly" documents of much of my data, such as the Family Group Sheets and other info, and I also plan to print out "books" and hand them out! I will attempt to make neat hard-copy versions of these webpages and hand them out to many of my relatives.. So if you are a relative of mine, and you know me personally, you will probably get a "book"! ... eventually...might take a few years! but I will get there..
meanwhile, if you still want to try to print things from this webpage, feel free! thats fine..
just be aware it might be messy..I will post links to the "printer friendly" Family Group sheets once I have them uploaded..stay tuned!
Scot & Debbie Lawrence
Email to: firstname.lastname@example.org
Page started January
Scot Lawrence, 2009